A flexible-office lessor: WeWork signs long-term leases on buildings and sublets desks, offices and meeting rooms to companies on flexible short-term memberships, dressing a real-estate business in technology and community branding.
The bet
Public markets would accept a ~$47B tech-style valuation for a leasing business, funding a ~$3B IPO (unlocking ~$6B of credit) with founder control intact.
About $12.8B raised across rounds per Crunchbase data cited in the thread, including roughly $8–9B from SoftBank's Vision Fund; the last private round valued WeWork near $47B.
WeWork began around 2010 — its own S-1 says 'Nine years ago, we had a mission to create a world where people work to make a life, not just a living' — and grew into a 'community company' whose stated mission was to 'elevate the world's consciousness.' It signed long-term leases and sublet flexible space, reached roughly 833 locations and close to 300,000 members by 2019, and raised about $12.8B, much of it from SoftBank's Vision Fund.
After the S-1 became public in August 2019, scrutiny was immediate: Bloomberg reported that WeWork had lent founder Adam Neumann money as it paid him rent on properties he owned (four of its 833 locations), his dual role as landlord and CEO drew press attention, and the prospectus's 'community company' language became a punchline. Commenters calculated WeWork lost about $0.50 for every $1 of revenue, compared it with Regus/IWG — similar square footage, profitable, worth roughly $4.5–9.8B — and Aswath Damodaran publicly estimated the equity at about $13.75B ($26/share) against lease-and-debt obligations of ~$23.8B. IPO talk fell from initial reports near $65B, or the $47B actual round, to $20–30B, and then to a possible $10B.
By 2019-09-13 the bet was visibly breaking: sources told Reuters WeWork was considering an IPO valuation as low as $10B — roughly an 80% cut from the $47B private round — and the thread's consensus was that WeWork needed the IPO's cash (about $3B raised to unlock $6B of credit) but could not get it at the price its investors had set.
The S-1 forced a re-read of the company: a 'community company' prospectus met a business losing ~$0.50 per $1 of revenue, and founder loans plus landlord conflicts destroyed trust.
The valuation was set by one buyer, SoftBank, at ~$47B; public comparables said lessor economics — Regus/IWG ran similar square footage profitably at roughly $4.5–9.8B enterprise value.
WeWork needed the IPO more than investors did: an ~$3B raise was tied to ~$6B of credit, so it could not walk away when price discovery went against it.
Real-estate costs do not behave like software: leases and build-outs make every new member expensive, so growth could not justify technology multiples.
A price set by one investor is not a market value: when a capital-hungry lessor meets public buyers, its economics get repriced in weeks — $47B to $10B was the market's verdict on the business.
As of 2019-09-13 WeWork had not priced its IPO; sources told Reuters the company was considering a valuation as low as $10B, and the thread's discussion treated the offering as hanging on whether SoftBank and WeWork would accept terms roughly 80% below the last private round. The material records nothing after that date, so whether WeWork withdrew, replaced leadership or eventually listed is outside this case.
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The sources
- WeWork considers IPO valuation of as low as $10B Hacker News · news.ycombinator.com ·
- Exclusive: WeWork considers IPO valuation of as low as $10 billion: sources Reuters · reuters.com ·
- WeWork Gave Founder Loans as It Paid Him Rent, IPO Filing Shows Bloomberg · bloomberg.com ·
- WeWork S-1 registration statement U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission · sec.gov